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Set Chibi com.: kittykatkanie by Red-Birdie Set Chibi com.: kittykatkanie by Red-Birdie
Special set chibi commission for =kittykatkanie of her wonderful designs for the characters Tolkien novel Silmarillion

Top to bottom; left to right
-Twins Amrod & Amras
- Curufin
- Caranthir
- Maglor
- Celegorm
- Maedhros

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Ask-FemKorea Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2013  Student Filmographer
So cute!

I love chibi Maglor X3
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Kingsdaughter613 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Too cute! It's funny thinking of them as kids...
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Red-Birdie Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012
XDD thanks
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saurodinus Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
lol the upside down one is so funny XD
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Red-Birdie Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2011
^.~
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Nerwen20 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2011
AWWWWW. They are so CUTE! :la: Maglor, Celegorm and Maedhros are the best here :D
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Red-Birdie Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2011
XDD Thank you :hug:
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JenniferElluin Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
We brothers are ADORABLE! :D
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Red-Birdie Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2011
XDD :hug:
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LadyBrookeCelebwen Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
This is so cute! I love it...Turko's face is hilarious, I guess the twins just dropped an acorn on him. :D I love Maglor's harp, and how he has his hand, and how Moryo is just sort of staring off and ignoring them. :squee:
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Red-Birdie Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2011
^.~ Who knows.

^^ Thank you~! I'm glad you like it~! :icongwompplz:
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LadyBrookeCelebwen Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
:D

You're welcome! :glomp:
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Saeleth Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011
So cute!!!!!!!!!
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Red-Birdie Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2011
^^ Thank you
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Saeleth Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2011
Welcome! ^___^
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Gwenniel Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Chibi + Noldor = cuteness beyond description.

Love them all. It's great how you managed to in a single picture portray all their personalities so accurately.
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Red-Birdie Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011
:hug: Thank you for thinking so highly of me
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StrawberryJam1313 Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011
Celegorm! CELEGORM! Oh Turko :heart: This is wonderful! Ambarussa are so cute! And Kano looks like he's ready to knock himself out...

(And may I mention that I love Curufin's eyes so much? ^^)
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Red-Birdie Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011
^^ Thank you :iconsweethugplz:, but most of the credit should go to Kat, had it not have been for her wonderful references and descriptions, it would not have turned out as well as it seems to have
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GovannonsArt Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011
So cute! Celegorms expression is fabulous!
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Red-Birdie Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011
XDD thank you! ^.~ He's a looker that one
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Feanoriel Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2011
We're so cute!

And shiny!

Nice job placing all the seven of us in the same pic; it can be a pain sometimes.
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Red-Birdie Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011
XDD :hug:

Admittedly it was a bit of a challenge at first, but you guys are so much fun to draw that it was purely enjoyable
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Celebel-Quettandil Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Cute cute chibis. But why is Celegorm blond?
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Red-Birdie Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011
^^ Thank you

:iconshockedplz: You mean he's not blond? :iconconfusedplz: (has not read the book)
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Celebel-Quettandil Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, I say he's not blond, because when Tolkien uses the word "fair" he refers to handsomeness/beautifulness. But there's people reply to me with other theories (check them if you want). I should find the cite!
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Red-Birdie Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2011
XD Is that so
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Feanoriel Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2011
Because it's a popular fan theory. All we know is he's hair was fair (as mentioned in HoME), and as there's no direct evidence against it being blond, many assume so. A growing theory is it's actually silvery, like Míriel's.

And I've begin to like to think it's actually a very light shade of red.
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Celebel-Quettandil Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Actually, the most plausible hair color for him is dark, just as his brothers and father, it's simple genetics. I don't think he has copper hair because it would be stated as a special feature of him, just as in Maedhros and the twins. Also it doesn't state that his hair was fair, it says that he was fair, meaning he was handsome, Tolkien uses this word over and over again to point at handsome and beautiful people. I'll try to found the cite in case I misread (I don't remember if I have the english or the spanish version of that book; if it's in spanish there's room for mistranslation).
See you.
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Nerwen20 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2011
The reason I think his hair could be fair is that Míriel had silver hair. He might have inherited it from her.
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Saeleth Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011
Yes, I agree with you, according to genetic laws he couldn't, even because not only Feanor but also Nerdanel should have the allele for blond hair (since it's recessive). But I don't think Tolkien worried too much about genetics (even Finarfin shouldn't be blond, unless Finwe had Vanyarin blood.
"Fair" is misunderstandable, and I suppose it has been translate in many different ways in other languages.
I think that many artists prefer to draw him with blond hair so that they can differentiate him better from the other black haired brothers ;) (that's what I did, even if sincerely at the beginning I wanted to give him dark hair). Since the color is not "determined" I think it's not so wrong to choose the color of preference ;)
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LadyBrookeCelebwen Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
But the thing is - fair doesn't only have to refer to blonde hair. It could also refer to a light brown or light red, both of are stated to be colors some of his brothers have.

And if silver hair was recessive, then it's entirely possible for Celegorm to end up with a silverish shade. Feanor would have to have one recessive gene for silver hair from his mother, and Nerdanel has to have a recessive gene for red. If silver and blonde are as recessive as each other, if Feanor passed his sliver gene to Celegorm, and Nerdanel passed a red gene, then it could just be a light shade of silver or red.

It's Tolkien's works though, and really, if he says fair or gleaming hair, it doesn't matter what the genetics are, his character has it.
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Saeleth Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011
Since the original comment was about blond hair I was referring about the possibilities he has blond hair, not simply light colored. ;) Yes, you're right about the light hair.

The logical possibilies should be two: he has light colored hair if compared with his brothers or he was particularly beautiful.

Anyway, it's a novel and not a science book so I agree, if it's said that a character has a particular character he has it, there's no need to worry too much about that ;). And I must say that I've seen so beautiful images of Celegorm with golden hair that I'm happy those artist chose to represent him like that ;)
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LadyBrookeCelebwen Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Sorry, one of my worst habits is to jump in and go off on tangents....:blushes:

There's one pic of Celegorm with silver hair that is beautiful, though I can't remember where it is at the moment...all of the golden haired ones are very nice too, though. :D
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Saeleth Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2011
Oh, don't worry! ;)

My favourite Celegorm of ever is this: [link] (love also the pic where he's with Curufin)
And I think the autor meant him silver haired because here the hair seems silver, not golden: [link] ^___^
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LadyBrookeCelebwen Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't think the genetics of it are really that simple - Feanor's mother had silver hair (which would be fair) and therefore there's a fifty/fifty chance that Celegorm inherited a fair gene from his father. Other then that, Feanoriel sums up my thoughts perfectly, and fair does not mean blonde...it means light colored. A light brown or red would qualify as fair, as would silver...and I know the line he is talking about, though I unfortunately do not have the book right with me, though I might be able to copy the line tomorrow.
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Celebel-Quettandil Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Can you copy the line where it syas about Míriel's silver hair? That's new to me! (or at least I don't remember having read it).
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LadyBrookeCelebwen Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh yes! Let me find it real fast...

Miriel was the name of his mother. Silver was her hair and dark were her eyes, but her hands were more suited to fineness than any hands even of the Noldor.

~ Morgoth's Ring, The Later Quenta Silmarillion: (I) The First Phase: 6. Of the Silmarils and the Darkening of Valinor" p. 185

Also, the quote Moryo is referring to is this:

"But up there starts amid the throng, and loudly cries for hearing, one with flaming eyes, proud Celegorm with gleaming hair and shining sword. Then all men stare upon his stern unyielding face, and a great hush falls upon that place."

~The Lays of Beleriand, The Lay of Leithian, Canto VI

Also, in The Shaping of Middle Earth, Celegorm's Old English name is stated to be Cynegrim Fægerfeax, which means Cynegrim the Fair-Haired. So at some point at least, Tolkien wrote Celegorm's hair as being fair, but I would say he was more likely to have a fair shade of silver, light red, or light brown, then the blonde normally depicted.
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Celebel-Quettandil Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks for the quotes.
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LadyBrookeCelebwen Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
You're welcome! :D If you ever need anymore, just send me a note or something, I can normally get them.
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kittykatkanie Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2011
Hi hi, sorry to butt in, but since I was the one who asked this artist to draw them in my designs, I think I should explain about Celegorm's hair color.

I'm Japanese, and I happen to read the translated version of Silmarillion (as well as the English one) here, and the translation is sort of bizarre. Like you mentioned, I can totally understand how "fair" =/= blond; i'm sure it can refer to as having good looks. :) However, the person who translated into Japanese happen to write "Celegorm the fair" as "金髪のケレゴルム", which literally means Celegorm the "golden hair"... so I guess I was greatly influenced by this, and the idea that Celegorm has golden hair got attached in my input. ^^;

In addition, just to let you know, the translated name for "Caranthir the dark" is "黒髪のカランシア”, which is.... Caranthir with "black hair".
I don't know why the person translated this way (I find it weird too.)

Hope it clears things a bit about "why Celegorm's hair is golden in this pic" :)
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Celebel-Quettandil Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Haha, yeah, translations can be tricky. In spanish, the well-known poem about Aragorn that says "All that is gold does not glitter" was translated as "All that glitters is not gold", huge change of meaning.
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kittykatkanie Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2011
Wow, really? That really changes.... I guess it's best to be kept in English :meow:
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Celebel-Quettandil Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, all literature is best in his own language, but, what can we do, we don't master all languages U_U
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Feanoriel Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2011
No, there should be a line in the verse verion of Lay of Leithian where it's said his fair hair was gleaming etc etc... Unfortunately I've never read the line myself (I haven't had the change to read all of the HoME books) but I believe what others have read.

I didn't mean his hair would be copper red. I ment it would be a very light shade of brownish/reddish. The concept of colour is culture relevant, and the same genes that produced the brownish/reddish hair in Mahtan's lineage could potentially manifest in different shades of brownish/reddish. These different shades caused by the same genes would be considered as different colours by the Elves, the same way some human cultures don't make difference between green and blue, and other have way more basic colours than we do. Remember Mahtan is described as a red head, Nerdanel was apparently a brunette, Maedhros had copper reddish brown hair, Amrod had darker brown hair with possibly some red left in it, and Amras was a red head. And yet they all had the same "red head" gene.
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LadyBrookeCelebwen Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I know the line you're talking about Moryo...I don't have Lays in front of me, but I might be able to get a copy of the relevant section tomorrow....:D
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Feanoriel Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011
Cool! Please cite the whole line, it'd be very interesting.
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LadyBrookeCelebwen Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Hey, Moryo, did you see the cite, or do you want me to copy it down here?
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LadyBrookeCelebwen Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I cited it - it's up at bit, under where I was asked to quote the line about Miriel's hair. :D I also included some about how Tolkien translated Celegorm's Old English name, which gives more weight to him being fair-haired. :D
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Feanoriel Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2011
Oh Eru, I wrote "his" as "he's". Next I'll write "your" as "you're"...
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